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csintexas
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That would definitely have some influence.
Of coarse other factors are also involved. If the better school is unaffordable because it is away from home (even though tuition is the same) it may not be an option, also if the entrance requirements are much more restrictive and she does not qualify she may not have a choice.
Everyone of coarse would like to send their kids to Yale and give them the best chance of succeeding as possible. What I would tell her is that it is up to her what she makes of any educational opportunity.
But unlike your example where the contrast was extreme I think you will find the data to be as murky and as hard to interpret as the fact that California has more architects per capita. Looking at the past four or even twenty years doesn't tell us much about the next ten years.
I think you will find schools that have varying failure rates based on how selective they are and what the average income level is. Rich people have more options than poor people. But if you compare apples to apples I don't think you will find much difference.
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Matt
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: Blue Smurf |
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I found a funny thing at the yale school of architecture website when I searched for the terms
license architect
(not in quotes)
you can see it here, about halfway down the page.
http://stairwaytoarchitecture.com/links.html
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lavardera
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Chris, no doubt Matt has managed the conversation well, and yes it certainly has given him opportunity to expound on his idea more. But when you have digressed so far from the center of what he is doing, then no, I don't think it is helpful. Very often its obvious you don't know what you are talking about, and you don't know that you don't know what you are talking about. The term for that is Bull in the China Shop. Some friendly advice - heed to the pushback when you are getting the signal you are going astray. Nobody is taking away your free speech. If I was hostile towards you I would not take the time to offer advice.
Enough of that. I've said my piece to you.
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csintexas
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:26 am Post subject: |
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Instead of just criticizing me for having an opinion why not set the record straight if that is your intention?
Participate in the discussion or not.
By using lines like:
| Quote: | | Very often its obvious you don't know what you are talking about, and you don't know that you don't know what you are talking about. |
..while providing no evidence...
You just make yourself look bad. Or are we all just supposed to assume that anything you say is right? Do you actually have any relevant comments on this subject?
I will certainly heed to the originator of any thread that I participate in.
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lavardera
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Matt,
I went to the Yale web site as you suggested, I searched for license architect and it came up with no matches. None.
It said something about Blue Smurfs however. So it appears that Yale is more likely to graduate blue smurfs than architects.
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WalkerARCHITECTS
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We typically assume that a good "ARCHITECTURE SCHOOL" is one that gets you a good job with a future after you graduate. That may be the most common measure, but of course is no measure of an architect at all. It is my experience that the best architects come from the nature, character & talent of the man or the woman and not the school, in my opinion the school is of little significance in the matter.
I worked as an employee for a Blue Smurf Yale graduate, in Seattle for a while. He was (somehow still is) licensed as an architect, an architect of that sort that hires talented people and puts his name on the work of his employees. Borrows money from banks and secures the loans with property he does not own, lies about other professionals, and does not understand that you find your smile at the intersection of integrity and compromise or you hide behind it until you are forgotten. Never met any other Yale graduates, but certainly would not judge them based upon this sample.
It is all about the personal journey. It is all about the work. There is no machine or process that makes an architect or empowers a man to bring life to light and surface.
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lavardera
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Well, in the end it would not be measuring the schools, or measuring the architects, but measuring the process of becoming an architect.
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