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vsvs



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:24 am    Post subject: worries Reply with quoteFind all posts by vsvs

hello everyone!!! i've been a student in architecture for 5 years now and i have the feeling that even when i get my degree i won't have the proper knowledge to work as a proffesional!!! am i the only one that feels this way? i can say that i am a good student but i still worry!!!
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RWL



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by RWL

You're OK!!

No one will expect you to do things that are beyond your expertise, BUT it is good to know and to be wary of your limitations [but don't worry over them!]-- and those are the places where you need to look to keep growing, asking, learning and finding out!

At some point, every one comes to the point where, one day, they say, "I can handle whatever comes at me today, even if I just refer the problem to some one else".

That is just a matter of confidence whch will increase day day day as you work.

And the very best of luck to your in your professional and private lfie!!!!
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Landy



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Landy

hot topic!
I'm positive that every architect lives with the same question in their heads. My perspective is that if you want to be a thinker then research in a school most likely fits your interest. And of course to only find out that there are millions of things to question...
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solidred



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by solidred

I agree with RWL.
There's probably going to be more than one moment where you're faced with drawing a construction detail or you find yourself the sole architectural representative on site and you'll feel out of your depth. Don't bluff authority you don't have: you may feel 'small' at the time but you won't get in trouble either. On site, when in doubt, simply gather information for later review and don't be co-erced into making decisions you don't have the requisite data to make. Back in the office, the main problem is when your superiors seem too busy to deal with your questions. If this is the case, then you have to be bold and make your queries known regardless. If you constantly find yourself having to complete tasks for which you're provided neither clear guidance nor support then this is the fault of your employer, not you.
It can come as something of a shock to find yourself not the master of all you do after having been in that sort of position for a fair while at uni., but it's a necessary phase, being this almost-beginner again for a while. So long as you can stomach it, the job should eventually transform into the creative, responsible, well-rounded career it always promised to be.
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gleearch



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by gleearch

Nobody expects you to know everything about architecture and what entails getting the jobs done, right out of college. It's a bonus for the employer if you are self motivated, learn fast and capable. If you already have some working experience from internships etc, even more so.
However there's always a lot of on the job training and hopefully your firm cares enough to provide that to you. Firms that train their employees tend to have more productive employees and therefore are more capable of getting the jobs done right.
I'll let you in a little secret. No matter how long you stay in this business, you never know everything. You'll get better at it and you'll know where to find the answers but you aren't going to know everything. Building technology changes all the time. You'll be learning new things till the day you retire if you retire.
Anyway, best wishes in your new career.

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RWL



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by RWL

Seeing the good things others have said, and thinking a little more, one other thing.

You will find an amazing number of very good people who are willing and able to help you in any of many ways-- drafting/CAD, practice, techniques, construction materials and systems, detailing, etc. There is a lot of good advice, experience and direction in any office-- mentoring and team orientation.

Rarely, if ever, will you be just "cut loose" on your own, with no resources. Office know fully well that new folks cannot do everything, and they simply won't risk their "necks" to allow the young inexperienced to do work unassisted-- too risky for safety an liability reasons.

Know what you don't know; ask good questions; learn to research; and
learn where and who your resources are.
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mx2
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by mx2

Great question and the fact that you asked vsvs is a good sign on your part. Everyone has made sound contributions and I suggest you heed what they said. I would only add that with time and experience that feeling begins to dissipate a little more with every new task. What is most critical is being aware of your limits, your responsibilities and not being afraid to admit them while demonstrating the desire to learn the issues at every chance. Many people lie their ways through their jobs and end up making a real mess, at times even endangering lives. There is no need. We all have to start somewhere. And the next project is always your best project...

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nayan



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by nayan

Hey don't worry about this. You can consider my example. I passed out in oct-2005 and started practising, And you want believe i have already designed 40 to 6o projects so far. 10 are in progress right now.

So just be yourself and jump in, things will work by itself.
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mx2
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by mx2

Quote:
things will work by itself.


I don't think so...then why do I show up to work every day?

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vsvs



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by vsvs

i know it has been such a long time since my last post but there were some problems with my adsl.....
anyway thank you all people for replying to my "worries". i didnt expect this issue to be so "hot". i thought that it was just my way of thinking and that everybody has a great career. maybe because thats what older architects make you think: "it is all so easy".
again thank you all and i'd like to hope that if i need something proffessionally there are other architects out there who are kind enough to help me!!!
with my kindest thoughts for all of you
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Mahdi Zahraee



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Mahdi Zahraee

We wish we stay always a student of architecture and we believe this is the only way you can be a good architect . So go on and learn while you are working on a project . That is the feeling every talented architect may have at the final years of the study .
Good luck Smile
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nanrehvasconez



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by nanrehvasconez

When you finish school, get your diploma and your license, you are authorized to call youself "architect".

For all practical purposes, you never finish school, if you stop learning, better be dead!

I have practiced for more than 50 years, I am still learning.

Good luck.
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Checkpoint43



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Checkpoint43

Once you graduate, you will probably start working at an architectural firm.
While you are there, you will be called on to represent the work of the senior partners of that firm. Your drawing style and attention to detail will mirror theirs.

Some design firms are more demanding, while others are a little more laid back.
They will guide you through your duties, and before long you will be more comfortable in your position in the firm.

If you should happen to move to another company, you will see some differences in their work ethics.
Once you have your degree, you should be qualified to work for for either company. All you need to do now, is adapt.

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